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May 16, 2012
What Side Is God On? The INside.
Pastor Ted - AL / Dena Lynn Brehm - OR
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Glenn Klein
and Mike Williams were discussing the topic
of war and peace, and Mike was pointing out
where conflict first started: It was
between God and man. The good news is, the
war is over thanks to the cross...God is not
angry at any human for he has made us all
righteous. Pastor Ted Winsett called in
from Decatur, Alabama to share his thoughts
on the matter and also to ask about people
who didn't believe and if that doomed them
to hell, to which Mike replied that the
unbelieving soul is not an eternal issue in
the Gospel. The Gospel redeemed all
humanity and the salvation of the soul is
just in this life. The redemption is for
everyone for all time to be with God. There
is no eternal damnation for anyone. Dena
Brehm of Dallas, Oregon called in and
discussed her evolution of opinion about
war. She said she realized war was a result
of a conflict within the hearts of people.
Glenn and Mike also pointed out that Abraham
Lincoln said he didn't know what side God
was on during the American Revolutionary
War. Dena had the answer: "God is on the
Inside!" We were also happy to hear
from Moses Ngata, the President of the
Gospel Revolution School of the Scriptures
in Kenya. Moses asked how Jesus could be
the Last Adam...for more, please listen to
What Side Is God On? The INside.
May 09, 2012
Religion: Child Abuse
Dena Lynn Brehm - OR / Grant
Miller - IN / Doug Bowman -
AR
In this Gospel Revolution podcast, Mike
Williams start off the discussion with the
historic announcement by Barack Obama that
he believed all people should be able to get
married regardless of same-sex or
opposite-sex couples. It was historic
because Barack Obama is the first American
President to ever make that statement. Dena
Brehm of Dallas, Oregon also called in to
discuss religious child abuse and Mike
brought up raising children according to the
Bible and specifically according to
Proverbs. He and Dena both found it was a
great mistake and Mike pointed out that
Solomon, the author of Proverbs, later wrote
that it was all "vanity"...it doesn't
work...it is wrong...it is abuse. Thanks to
Grant Miller who called in from North
Manchester, Indiana to tell us that he came
to understand that Jesus was the last Adam
that took away the sin of the first Adam and
that was the remission of sin for us all, he
just decided to believe it and his heart
soon followed. Grant not only believed it,
he started to live it and feel it. Thanks
also to Doug Bowman of Littlerock, Arkansas
for calling in about another issue of
religious child abuse: telling a child that
unless they do something, i.e., accept
Jesus, or whatever else, they will go to
hell - that's child abuse. Finally, we want
to wish Moses Ngata and all the Gospel
Revolutionaries in Kenya AMANI
(peace)! For more, listen to
Religious Child Abuse.
May 02, 2012
Christian Baggage
Dena Lynn Brehm - OR / Ken Vandeveer - OK /
Girma Colson - VA / Dena Morgan - MI
In this Gospel
Revolution podcast, Mike Williams and Glenn
Klein addressed an email question from
Steven Ames of Agoura, California. He asked
about the meaning of Hebrews 9:28 and
commented that it sounded like "the
so-called second coming". Mike pointed out
that Jesus would appear without sin at his
coming again which was when he rose from the
dead. That was the "coming" that was spoken
of. Thanks to long-time friend Ken
Vanderveer of Atwood, Oklahoma, Dena Brehm
of Dallas, Oregon, Dena Morgan of
Noblesville, Indiana and Girma Colston of
Stratford, Virginia for calling in and
contributing to this Gospel conversatation.
April 25, 2012
We Are One
Shane Windorski - WI / Krisan Panther - IA
In this Gospel Revolution
podcast, Mike Williams explains early in the
show that, because he embraces the Gospel of
Jesus Christ, he can no longer call himself
a Christian. A key point to the news that
the Gospel announces is that Christ has made
all mankind "One". There is neither Jew nor
Greek, bond nor free... Christian or
non-Christian in the verdict of God based on
the work of his son, Jesus Christ. Thanks
to Moses Ngata of Kenya for emailing us with
a question and requesting that we play
"Together As One" by Lucky Dube. Thanks
also to Shane Windorski of Weston, Wisconsin
and Krisan Panther of Waterloo, Iowa for
calling in and sharing their freedom with us
tonight! For more, listen to
We Are One.
April 18, 2012
Creflo Dollar (aka "Craplo Dollar")
Richard Mull - CA / Kim Baker - HI
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Mike Williams
and Glenn Klein talked about suicide in a
way that would not be heard from many in
Christian circles. The issue of recognizing
self-pity was highlighted as a big problem
for people and Mike noted it is not easily
recognized either. We heard via email from
the President of The Gospel Revolution
School of the Scriptures in Kenya, Moses
Ngata. We were overjoyed to hear all the
names of the "students" of the school and
even more overjoyed to hear that pastors are
actually seeking Gospel information "by
night" in the region. Special thanks to
Richard Mull of Garden Grove, CA for sharing
powerful truth of the Gospel with us tonight
and for expressing his own opinion of what
Creflo Dollar preaches and coined the
expression "Craplo Dollar." Also thanks to
Kim Baker of Lihue, HI for his question
tonight. For more, listen to
Creflo Dollar (AKA "Craplo Dollar").
April 11, 2012
There is No Great Commission
James Taylor - LA / Jackie Barnard - AZ
In this Gospel Revolution
podcast, Mike Williams and Glenn Klein
talked about the fact that the Gospel does
nothing, BUT it is the good news, and as one
of our callers tonight, James Taylor said,
the good news "meditated on me"! The Gospel
is news, but as that news sinks in, it frees
us from judgment and guilt. The result of
the relief of those heavy weights is that we
can deal with things in this life no matter
how they turn out. Thanks to Moses Ngata,
for all he is doing in Kenya. Thanks to Lee
Lau Sung of Hong Kong for sharing his love
for the Gospel to add to his monthly
contributions to get this message out to the
world. It's because of Lee Lau and others,
we are doing just that! Thanks also to
Jackie Barnard for calling in from Huachuca
City, AZ for asking about the "Great
Commission" in Matthew 28 and pointing out
the fact it was not original text, and
thanks to Tom Tonsky of Canton, OH for
emailing in promptly that it was never in
any of the earlier or even much later
manuscripts of Matthew. For more, you must
listen to
There Is No Great Commission.
April 04, 2012
The Israelis Cleaned Up Hell
Ivan Rogers - IA / Brad Wilson / AZ
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Mike Williams
and Glenn Klein started out the conversation
about how Mike first started preaching the
Gospel in the early '80's and it boiled down
to a concept of we were all sinners because
of the sin of Adam and we were all made
righteous because of the righteousness of
the Last Adam (Jesus Christ). Our guest on
this podcast was Ivan Rogers, the author of
the book "Dropping Hell and Embracing
Grace." Ivan has been a pastor for over 60
years and now is 82 years young. For
decades, Ivan taught the commonly accepted
message of evangelical Christianity that
taught a fear of hell. Ivan was quite
gracious and revealing in explaining some of
Christianity's history with a doctrine of
hell and the final outcome of the interview
resulted in the subject that "all" were
condemned by one man and "ALL WERE REDEEMED
BY ONE MAN!" Thanks also to our first-time
caller, Brad Wilson and his wife Holly of
San Tan Valley, AZ, for their encouragement
and gratitude for our work in continuing to
get the message of the Gospel out to the
world!
March 28, 2012
Big News
Pep Washburn - WI / Jackie Barnard - AZ /
Shane Windorski - WI / Tom Tonsky - OH
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Mike and
Glenn had a couple big announcements. We
are going to start a new publishing company
called "Geneva Press", which will not only
publish Mike's upcoming book "One - The
Gospel According to Mike", but is poised to
provide a platform for other Gospel
Revolutionaries who are also prolific
writers to publish their works and insight
into the Gospel. We are also excited to
announce that we will provide Moses Gachau
Ngata of Kenya with all the materials we
have to offer to instruct and share the
Gospel in Kenya. Thanks to Pep Washburn for
calling in from Marshfield, WI as well as
Shane Windorski from Weston, WI, Jackie
Barnard from Huachuca City, AZ, and Tom
Tonsky from Canton, OH. Their contributions
to the webcast and our current pledge drive
are greatly appreciated! To listen to
this podcast, please go to
Big News.
March 21, 2012
Because They Have Not Heard
Howard Wirch - Manitoba, Canada / Marcus
Deel - HI / Jesse & Peggy Zuniga - MD
In this Gospel Revolution
podcast, Glenn Klein and Mike Williams
kicked of the 2012 Start of Spring Pledge
Drive with all the reasons why someone
should not religiously pledge to support our
efforts. Not exactly a way to
manipulate someone to give, but just the way
we like it. It does take supporters to
cover the thousands of dollars it costs
every year to provide hundreds of hours of
free podcasts and other things we do to get
the Gospel out, but we don't manipulate
anyone at all. That's unfortunately
the tactic of the many internationally known
ministries mentioned in this podcast.
We want to thank Howard Wirch of Dauphin,
Manitoba for sharing a little diddy of a
re-rendered version of "Jesus Loves Me" and
his financial contribution as well. We
also want to thant Marcus Deel of Kihei,
Hawaii on the great island of Maui for
contributing to the show as the devil's
advocate. Special thanks also to Peggy
and Jesse Zuniga for calling in from
Waterfield, Maryland for sharing their love
of the Gospel and also making a financial
pledge. To listen to
this podcast, please go to
Flood of Righteousness.
March 14, 2012
A Flood of Righteousness
Jan Heller - WI / Kookie Davida - Castor,
Alberta CA / Marjorie House - Fenelon Falls,
Ontario CA
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Mike Williams
and Glenn Klein open the show with a
commentary on a joke gone bad by an
Australian interviewer who tried to tell the
Dalai Lama a joke about "being made one."
The poor interviewer flopped because the
Dalai Lama, even with the help of a
translator didn't get the gist of the joke.
Mike picked up on the theme of "One" and
related it to and equation of "One" found in
the Gospel. That equation is simply that
one man, Adam, sinned, and the One Man, The
Last Adam, Jesus obeyed. That is the
ultimate equation because through the first
Adam's sin, all were dead in him, but all
who were dead in the first Adam were made
alive in the Last Adam. We were raised in
him and made one. Not only one with
everything, but one with God. Ergo the
title: Flood of Righteousness. That flood
came through the flood of grace for all
humanity in the work of Christ by the grace
of God. That grace brought righteousness
and grace, like a flood of water poured into
every crevice of every rock and and
unreachable place to NO END and brought
righteousness to humanity and all creation.
We want to thank Jan Heller of Mt. Horeb,
Wisconsin, Kookie Davida of Castor, Alberta,
and Marjorie House of Fenelon Falls, Ontario
for calling in and contributing so much
more. We also want to send out a special
thanks to Moses Ngata of Kenya, who walks
over 40 miles (60 kilometers) just to get
internet access and listen to the Gospel
Revolution. Moses has been a priceless
contributor to the Gospel and this
revolution!
To listen to
this podcast, please go to
Flood of Righteousness.
March 07, 2012
Special Ops
Matt Perry - GA / Jeannie Hope - Edmonton,
Alberta CA / Jesse & Peggy Zuniga - MD
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Mike Williams
and Glenn Klein discussed the recent
tornadoes in Illinois, Indiana, Tennessee,
Kentucky, Ohio and Alabama. They also
discussed comments made by televangelist Pat
Robertson, who when talking about theses
same tornadoes on a recent broadcast and
said it was the fault of the people who were
hit by these tornadoes for building houses
"where tornadoes occur". Mike and Glenn both
discussed the "flip-flop" positions Pat
Robertson takes on such issues because in
this particular episode Robertson said God
did not send them, but we know that in other
natural and man-made disasters, he said they
were the judgment of God. We want to thank
Matt Perry of Ackworth, Georgia, Jeannie
Hope of Edmonton, Alberta and Jesse and
Peggy Zuniga of Waterfield, Maryland for
calling in with their refreshing and
inspiring contributions that so greatly
enriched this show!
To listen to
this podcast, please go to
Special Ops.
February 29, 2012
Fearless Explorers
Girma Colston - VA / Dena Morgan - MI /
Grant Miller - IN / Carla Barton - FL
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Glenn Klein
and Mike Williams discussed the recent and
unexpected passing of Davy Jones of the TV
band "The Monkees" and discussed his
redemption by the work of Christ at the
cross. Thanks to Girma Colston and Dena
Morgan who called in together. Girma asked
if a person's mind could be renewed before
the cross and Mike answered "yes". Listen
here to learn more. Thanks also Grant
Miller of North Manchester, Indiana and
Carla Barton of Tampa, Florida for adding to
some great discussions on this webcast.
To listen to
this podcast, please go to
Fearless Explorers.
February 22, 2012
The Holy Thread
Greg Amburgy - OH
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Mike Williams
and Glenn Klein discuss God and His "holy"
fallibility. The subject of Mike's recent
conference on Proverbs, entitled "What's
Proverbs Got To Do With It," came up and
Greg Amburgy 0f Maineville, Ohio called in
and they all discussed it. Greg had
listened to the series, in which Mike talked
about raising children to the ridged tenets
of Proverbs in the Old Testament and Greg
said at one point, he stopped and cried
because he had done that himself, along with
his parents before him and Mike himself.
Mike also brought up a conversation he had
with Richard Mull of Garden Grove,
California and a recent conversation where
Richard was so animated about how God chose
us ALL because of our "Unbelief"...ultimate
truth of the Gospel. Thanks also to Moses
Ngata of Nairobi, Kenya for his continued
emails in which we discussed also in this
podcast the virtues of Christ we have since
the cross. Finally, the "Holy Thread" that
ran throughout the story of humanity from
God creating his son Adam and choosing his
people to be an example of his "Chosen",
exemplified in this podcast to its final
minutes was the ANGER OF GOD, WHICH
DEMONSTRATED HIS UNREQUITED LOVE, and
where it came from and how it was
"satisfied"...God's anger came from
unrequited love and was quelled, satiated,
snuffed out, AT THE CROSS. To listen to
this podcast, please go to
The Holy Thread.
February 15, 2012
Spare Not The Rod. Not!
Richard Mull - CA
In this
Gospel Revolution
podcast, Mike Williams and Glenn Klein
discussed things that have come up in the
past and Michael brought up the fact that we
discuss some things that might upset some
people, but anyone who holds...literally
"holds" to their beliefs, will or might be
upset by what might be said here because we
are actually describing a work of God, the
"Jesus" we were all taught about, and find
out what He really did...this commentary is
influenced by a call from Richard Mull of
Garden Groves, California, who made the
aforementioned fact even clearer. The
podcast went on to talk about "Proverbs" and
"Ecclesiastes", who's same author was
Solomon. Mike brings out JUST one point
about the rearing of "Christian" children
from his own experience.
To listen to
this podcast, please go to
Spare Not The Rod.
February 12, 2012
Whitney Houston Remembered - Email
Extravaganza
In this Gospel Revolution
podcast, Mike and Glenn discussed a number
of emails. This podcast was broadcast live
just a day after singer and song writer
Whitney Houston, who died yesterday,
February 11th, 2012, and we discussed her
righteousness and her Christian background.
We were sad and proud to honor Whitney on
this show. We had an email from Scott
Jonsson of Anchorage, Alaska who asked if
the scriptures were inspired by God. Moses
Ngata of Nairobi, Kenya sent a great
question about who was redeemed at the
cross. We also received an email from Paul
in the U.K., Dave Bodgess, and a man named
Greg who asked about why we keep sinning, to
which Mike answered we don't sin and
explained why. To listen to
this podcast, please go to
Whitney Houston Remembered.
February 08, 2012
Thank You For Not Killing Yourself
Ivan Rogers - IA/ Ron Fox - CA
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Mike Williams
and Glenn Klein interviewed Ivan A. Rogers,
author of Dropping Hell and Embracing Grace,
and discussed the universal redemption of
humanity by Jesus Christ the Christian world
on the whole doesn't embrace. The beauty of
the work of Christ and the Gospel message
was expressed in this podcast with new
eloquence. We also want to thank Ron Fox of
Palm Springs, California, who has called in
a number of times before. All three, Glenn,
Mike and Ron reminisced about Ron's first
phone call when Ron was contemplating
suicide. What was the advice from Glenn and
Mike back then? ..."Follow your heart."
They didn't try to talk him out of it and
all these years later, Ron is still with
us. Mike and Glenn were both able to share
as well as Ron their individual experiences
with dealing with suicidal thoughts. To listen to
this podcast, please go to
Thank You For Not Killing Yourself.
February 01, 2012
The Lord's Prayer Fulfilled
Howard Wirch - Dauphin, MB, Canada
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Mike Williams
and Glenn Klein discussed the recent
conference this past weekend about the book
of Proverbs in the Bible and Solomon's other
writing, Ecclesiastes, and the religious
abuse that can come from trying to raise
children by the "wisdom" of Proverbs, when
Solomon himself later wrote Ecclesiastes
that it was all "vanity". Thanks to Howard
Wirch, who called in from Dauphin, Manitoba
and was also at the conference and shared
what he and his wife could already see and
understand from their own religious
background. Special thanks also to Moses
Gachau Ngata for his emails, insights and
encouragements! Asante sana Moses G.
Ngata! To listen to
this podcast, please go to
The Lord's Prayer Fulfilled.
January 25, 2012
Honor Killings
Richard Mull - CA / Vic D'Obrennan -
Calgary, AB, Canada
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Mike Williams
and Glenn Klein discussed many topics. We
were especially graced by a call from
Richard Mull of Garden Grove, CA. Richard
talked about the fact that he's looking
forward to the coming weekend in Calgary, AB
for the upcoming conference. Richard's
condition came up in the conversation
because he is dealing with 4 different
cancers, some of which are in stage 4.
Richard was asked why his outlook and
stamina was so good considering his health
status. He said the freedom of the Gospel
gives him an outlook far beyond the cancer.
We also want to thank Vic d'Obrenan of
Calgary, AB - Canada, who is our host this
upcoming weekend at the
conference in Calgary. Vic thanked
Mike for connecting many Christian anchor
verses, such as John 3:16 with their actual
scriptural meaning from the scriptures in
the Prophets in the Old Testament. This
podcast ended with a discussion about
prayer, but also with an understanding or
clarification that this Gospel is not a
dictate to do or not do, be or not be, act
or not act other than to follow your own
heart...pray if that's where your heart
leads you as well as speak in tongues, go to
church...follow your heart. These are not
Gospel issues! To listen to
this podcast, please go to
Honor Killings.
January 18, 2012
Why I Hate Religion But Love Jesus: The
Response
Pep Washburn - WI / Jan Heller - WI
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast, Mike Williams
and Glenn Klein review Jefferson Bethke's
latest video that went viral on YouTube this
past week entitled "Why I Hate Religion, But
Love Jesus." The phenomenal rate at which
this video racked up so many views in one
week has heads spinning as to why this video
was so popular. Thanks to the great state
of Wisconsin for listening in. We had 2
callers from Wisconsin - Pep Washburn of
Marshfield and Jan Heller of Mount Horeb.
Pep called to talk about the concept of
"redemption", which is a concept found in
Christianity, but in other cultures, it is
not taken the same way such as Native
Americans, who also understand redemption.
Redemption is the work of God...that is
universal. We teach that that happened by
God's sole act through Jesus Christ without
us...humanity...having anything to do with
it, which is not the message of
Christianity. Christianity says we have to
"do" our part if we want to be redeemed or
saved. Jan Heller called to let us know
that her granddaughter Hannah was listening
with her tonight. They were delighted
because they realized the good news of the
Gospel of grace and peace is resonating with
millions. To listen to
this podcast, please go to
Video Response: Why I Hate Religion .
January 11, 2012
You're Redeemed, You Just Need To Get Saved
James Gustafson - Saskatchewan, Canada /
Jackie Barnard & Billie Thompson - AZ / Matt
Perry - GA
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast,
we received a call from James
Gustafson of Estevan,
Saskatchewan graced us with the
first call of the evening.
He relayed a story where he went
to church as a favor to some
friends and realized why he no
longer attended church. He
also relayed a conversation
where he was trying to convince
a friend that everyone has
already been imputed with
righteousness. Jackie
Barnard and Billie Thompson
called in from Huachuca City,
Arizona and Jackie related a
similar experience as to what
James called about. Matt
Perry of Atlanta, Georgia to
talk about the afterglow he had
after attending the Gospel
Summit in Tampa, Florida. To listen to
this podcast, please go to
You're Redeemed You Just Need to
Get Saved.
January 04, 2012
A Baby In A Basket, A Baby On A Plane
Carrie Miller - WA / Grant Miller - IN / Dave Boggess - MT
In this
Gospel Revolution podcast,
we received a call from Carrie
Miller of Kennewick, Washington
and coincidentally received a
call from her uncle in North
Manchester, Indiana - Grant
Miller. The Millers and
the guys talked about the
absence of judgment in the
Gospel and how it can affect a
career like Carey is currently
pursuing in family counseling.
Dave Boggess of Billings,
Montana also called in to talk
about putting away childish
things. Mike had mentioned
earlier that we really can't
love people until we put away
the childishness of legalism.
We discussed two articles on the
Gospel Revolution website that
demonstrate the acknowledgement
of grace that brings us away
from unrealistic expectations
and help us grow up. Go to
"I Could Have Said No" and
"Putting Away Childish Things"
to read more on this subject. To listen to
this podcast, please go to
A Baby In A Basket, A Baby On A
Plane.
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